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“We start to deal with boundaries and how they’re going to work together,” says Downs. Adds Statsky, “It’s something we talked a lot about as we wrote this season—their power dynamic, which is at the heart of the show.” The show’s cocreators have always described Deborah and Ava’s bond as being “a dark mentorship between this woman and her writer,” says Statsky. “And as they grow closer, the boundaries become blurred, and it becomes a question of, ‘What is this?’ It’s a boss-employee Relationship, but it’s also a deep love and friendship. We’re exploring how complicated that can be this season.”

“Power in general is something we explore in different ways,” adds Aniello. “Deborah trying to gain power, how she acquires it, and how other people around her react to that. It’s one of our favorite things to [discuss].” (Deborah’s CEO Marcus, played by Carl Clemons-Hopkins, has had his own power struggles with the boss, but is back on the frontlines again at the start of the new season, helping her expand her empire.)

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